Saturday, April 16, 2011

Trumped up

7 comments:

Mr roT said...

Steyn is kinda close, but in my opinion, the reason that Trump is doing well among right-wingers is that he is willing to utter the obviously true bottom line here and doesn't seem to be saying it out of racism.

If you say what everyone feels instinctively, you win. Of course, the previous couple lines (as well as Trump's unwillingness to single you out, Tecs) would dilute the last...

Tecumseh said...

On the other hand, isn't a President supposed to be a statesman? When was the last time this happened?

Mr roT said...

Trump isn't going to win and W was plenty civil.

In fact, I think you were trying to egg McCain on to incivility. Funny you'd bemoan the loss of the powdered wig now.

Tecumseh said...

An election campaign is not (only) about civility/incivility and that kind of bullshit. It is (or should be) primarily about what you gonna do. And McCain was brain-dead in that respect. Plus he was a pussy about campaigning, but that became secondary once he melted down when the financial crisis hit.

You ever gonna understand this?

Mr roT said...

By "pussy about campaigning," I believe you mean that he wouldn't ask Obama if he was a follower of the Ayatollah Khomeini or if he'd ever tossed acid in the face of a girl that rejected him.

Tecumseh said...

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Man, oh, man -- can't you think of something else between your usual red herring strawmen that you raise, and the actual, serious campaigning that's required to win an election on the national scale -- say, the way Reagan beat Carter in 1980? Make an effort.

Mr roT said...

We were talking about being statesmanlike, at your behest.

To me, McCain was perfectly civil during the campaign and everyone knew that he wouldn't be a Chicago thug trying to kill the US like Obama plainly is.

The retarded US electorate supported the thug. What are you going to do? What could McCain do? Your advice is what I was mocking above, and it would not have worked. Obama's team had a trump card and that was calling any criticism racist. Going after Obama was impossible.

Romney would have done even worse because the Dems would have brought up MFT's crap about the Mormons not letting blacks be Elders or whatever.

So what? Your problem isn't statesmanlike conduct. He's respected in the Senate, by the media, he takes positions we agree with much of the time, and he's a war hero.

You complaining about statesmanship is probably not what's getting your goat. You just want Reagan again, but probably you're idealizing him too.