As I said before, this is not looking good, for anyone. My two cents:
(1) Perry should have piped things down with Social Security and all the Ponzi scheme/unconstitutional talk. There are enough issues on the plate right now, he should stick to the basics. Or simply follow Ryan's lead on that, he knows what he's talking about, that's his specialty.
(2) Romney is playing a dangerous game here--sort of the setup man for Obama next Fall. He's covering his tracks by saying he's for "entitlement reform", but that's just words.
Can't put the genie back in the bottle, but I think best would be for Perry and Romney to declare a moratorium on this, and fight on other grounds. Or otherwise, they'll damage not just themselves, but the whole GOP brand, which would be unpardonable.
I dunno, Rot. Are we all shooting ourselves in the foot, while Pepe is laughing his ass off?
By the way, Romney is not the only GOP candidate to distance himself from Perry's rather provocative comments regarding Social Security. The best response by far (even better than Palin's) is Bachmann's. C'mon, Rot, be a sport--give her credit, at least this one time.
Takeaway: You gotta stay focussed on message. And, you gotta win.
Of course, as Jennifer Rubin says, Karl Rove and Dick Cheney also disagree with Perry on this (after all, that's what prompted the question on SS at the debate). But forget about that--let's look at the follow-up: What is surprising is how ill-thought-out this appears to be. Perry has used incendiary rhetoric about a critical topic, doesn’t have a clear response in the debate and elsewhere offers a highly questionable state plan as an example of what he’d prefer. It is not reassuring to voters who may want reform but don’t want entitlement programs dismantled willy nilly.
Yes, Mitt has over-reacted -- Bachmann's reaction is the more measured and appropriate one. But, on the substance, I still think Perry made a big mistake by stepping into this Social Security debate without thinking things through beforehand. Exit quote: Perhaps this is the result of insufficient prep time or overwhelmed homestate staffers. But Perry can’t afford to offer half-baked ideas and allow his past, troublesome statements to float around. He’d be wise to promptly disclaim his comments as intending merely to start a debate and then roll out a smart, forwarding-looking reform plan that will preserve Social Security. If he doesn’t, he places his nomination at risk.
You can go on all you want with "I told you so"s about Perry talking too big, but I can counter very well by mentioning that you were all for Gingrich who mediscared Ryan. Ryan is not a loose cannon, awright?
Now, Romney decides to play the same shit and you back him up too. Uh-huh.
This mediscare shit started with the Dems tossing grandma from a pier and worked its way among to GOPers through the lax anus of Newt Gingrich, a known opportunist with zero principle. Now Romney has taken the baton.
If Romney wants to play hardball with the rest of the side, then it will be a GOP bloodbath because he has money and he will have to defend himself because of Romneycare.
Oh, and he gives a shit about nothing but winning the nomination.
He should just quit.
This is something I tell Tecs over and over but he doesn't listen.
It's all ultimately about character. Tecs swooned like the rest of the NRO dumbtelligentsiya about Romney while he's a (loser) carbon copy of Obama. Tecs' other try was Gingrich: Fuggedaboutit.
One must say that for all the railing, Tecs is a lot like Tom Friedman and David Brooks. Obama wears a nice suit and went to nice country club schools, thus he'll be a great president. Romney is the same.
"Hey roT!" Tecs exclaims, "He graduated with honors from Harvard with an MBA!!!"
I am graduating from life with a BFD about those, man. It's almost disqualifying.
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As I said before, this is not looking good, for anyone. My two cents:
(1) Perry should have piped things down with Social Security and all the Ponzi scheme/unconstitutional talk. There are enough issues on the plate right now, he should stick to the basics. Or simply follow Ryan's lead on that, he knows what he's talking about, that's his specialty.
(2) Romney is playing a dangerous game here--sort of the setup man for Obama next Fall. He's covering his tracks by saying he's for "entitlement reform", but that's just words.
Can't put the genie back in the bottle, but I think best would be for Perry and Romney to declare a moratorium on this, and fight on other grounds. Or otherwise, they'll damage not just themselves, but the whole GOP brand, which would be unpardonable.
I dunno, Rot. Are we all shooting ourselves in the foot, while Pepe is laughing his ass off?
Yes, Palin's answer on the SS question was much better than either Perry's or Romney's. Not rocket science, c'mon.
In all fairness, though, it's easier to answer a question the day after, rather than up on the stage during a debate.
By the way, Romney is not the only GOP candidate to distance himself from Perry's rather provocative comments regarding Social Security. The best response by far (even better than Palin's) is Bachmann's. C'mon, Rot, be a sport--give her credit, at least this one time.
Takeaway: You gotta stay focussed on message. And, you gotta win.
Romney is the McCain of Our Time
Bachmann's comments: here and here.
Of course, as Jennifer Rubin says, Karl Rove and Dick Cheney also disagree with Perry on this (after all, that's what prompted the question on SS at the debate). But forget about that--let's look at the follow-up:
What is surprising is how ill-thought-out this appears to be. Perry has used incendiary rhetoric about a critical topic, doesn’t have a clear response in the debate and elsewhere offers a highly questionable state plan as an example of what he’d prefer. It is not reassuring to voters who may want reform but don’t want entitlement programs dismantled willy nilly.
Yes, Mitt has over-reacted -- Bachmann's reaction is the more measured and appropriate one. But, on the substance, I still think Perry made a big mistake by stepping into this Social Security debate without thinking things through beforehand. Exit quote:
Perhaps this is the result of insufficient prep time or overwhelmed homestate staffers. But Perry can’t afford to offer half-baked ideas and allow his past, troublesome statements to float around. He’d be wise to promptly disclaim his comments as intending merely to start a debate and then roll out a smart, forwarding-looking reform plan that will preserve Social Security. If he doesn’t, he places his nomination at risk.
Dunno.
You can go on all you want with "I told you so"s about Perry talking too big, but I can counter very well by mentioning that you were all for Gingrich who mediscared Ryan. Ryan is not a loose cannon, awright?
Now, Romney decides to play the same shit and you back him up too. Uh-huh.
This mediscare shit started with the Dems tossing grandma from a pier and worked its way among to GOPers through the lax anus of Newt Gingrich, a known opportunist with zero principle. Now Romney has taken the baton.
If Romney wants to play hardball with the rest of the side, then it will be a GOP bloodbath because he has money and he will have to defend himself because of Romneycare.
Oh, and he gives a shit about nothing but winning the nomination.
He should just quit.
This is something I tell Tecs over and over but he doesn't listen.
It's all ultimately about character. Tecs swooned like the rest of the NRO dumbtelligentsiya about Romney while he's a (loser) carbon copy of Obama.
Tecs' other try was Gingrich: Fuggedaboutit.
One must say that for all the railing, Tecs is a lot like Tom Friedman and David Brooks. Obama wears a nice suit and went to nice country club schools, thus he'll be a great president. Romney is the same.
"Hey roT!" Tecs exclaims, "He graduated with honors from Harvard with an MBA!!!"
I am graduating from life with a BFD about those, man. It's almost disqualifying.
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