To be sure, some parts of the old progressive coalition, such as African-Americans, whose prospects have declined markedly under Obama, will most likely remain loyal to the president. Many other working- and middle-class voters, including Latinos and young people, groups particularly hard hit, may not be ready to bolt en masse for the GOP.
To be sure, some parts of the old progressive coalition, such as African-Americans, whose prospects have declined markedly under Obama, will most likely remain loyal to the president. Many other working- and middle-class voters, including Latinos and young people, groups particularly hard hit, may not be ready to bolt en masse for the GOP.
On the other hand, dirt-poor rural america will continue to vote for a party that wants to tax it more than NY penthouse dwellers. Obama sells crystal healing to his crowd, and the GOP sells eternal salvation combined with stars & stripes agitation. Go figure.
But no matter how incompetent obama's administration has turned out to be, this is no argument for GOP support on the part of the working and middle-class. Just because the farmer breaks all the eggs all the time doesn't mean the hens ought to bolt and move in with the fox.
Rather presumptuous of you to claim to know what's best for others, and you're probably wrong.
People on the dole are the ones whose society crumbles, check the UK. Ones that are independent and are not looking for "help" from sociologists seem to be just fine.
If you mean to say that it is a kind of tribalism to decide not to be wards of the state or beggars or thieves, I suppose you have a point, though a pretty empty one. I am talking about identity politics and rednecks are not an identity. People can shake cultural things off like that quickly. Shaking off black or Irish or Mexican doesn't work.
I don't feel tribal affiliation with Germans that wake at 6 to learn Icelandic before work, but I do admire them and would prefer that people like them be in charge.
Big deal to be an "urban sophisticate". There are zillions of phonies who can master that kind of trivial game. What, sitting pretty on a terrace on the Rive Gauche, sipping Chablis, and bullshitting about Derrida or some ersatz Frenchie philosophe? Pffui.
Pepe: The kids of course had money from early on. The cultcha was bought in cash from Ivy schools. A couple of them are pretty cool, actually, but others bought into too much of it, to my taste.
Stanford and Harvard to teach poetry and write vanity-press stuff? WTF?
The worthwhile cousins are down-to-earth but can navigate upper crust crap. With normals, they say it's all bullshit, but of course they benefit. We get drunk together when we can.
As to "urbanites" not simply being posturing snobs and all that, I wonder what you mean. I hope you aren't trying to sell more Simon Schama. That isn't learning anything; it is learning to parrot someone like a poor Catechism student does.
Of course some of those rotund tuxedoes at the Met can follow an opera in German and run the brokerage firm. Got to respect those.
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To be sure, some parts of the old progressive coalition, such as African-Americans, whose prospects have declined markedly under Obama, will most likely remain loyal to the president. Many other working- and middle-class voters, including Latinos and young people, groups particularly hard hit, may not be ready to bolt en masse for the GOP.
The soft bigotry of low expectations...
Tribalism doesn't always work.
Bummer. It's so easy to see who's on your side.
To be sure, some parts of the old progressive coalition, such as African-Americans, whose prospects have declined markedly under Obama, will most likely remain loyal to the president. Many other working- and middle-class voters, including Latinos and young people, groups particularly hard hit, may not be ready to bolt en masse for the GOP.
On the other hand, dirt-poor rural america will continue to vote for a party that wants to tax it more than NY penthouse dwellers. Obama sells crystal healing to his crowd, and the GOP sells eternal salvation combined with stars & stripes agitation. Go figure.
But no matter how incompetent obama's administration has turned out to be, this is no argument for GOP support on the part of the working and middle-class. Just because the farmer breaks all the eggs all the time doesn't mean the hens ought to bolt and move in with the fox.
Rather presumptuous of you to claim to know what's best for others, and you're probably wrong.
People on the dole are the ones whose society crumbles, check the UK. Ones that are independent and are not looking for "help" from sociologists seem to be just fine.
Rather presumptuous of you to claim to know what's best for others
what exactly do you mean by It's so easy to see who's on your side. ?
I am wondering what you're getting at.
If you mean to say that it is a kind of tribalism to decide not to be wards of the state or beggars or thieves, I suppose you have a point, though a pretty empty one. I am talking about identity politics and rednecks are not an identity. People can shake cultural things off like that quickly. Shaking off black or Irish or Mexican doesn't work.
I don't feel tribal affiliation with Germans that wake at 6 to learn Icelandic before work, but I do admire them and would prefer that people like them be in charge.
Have I misinterpreted your question?
My cousins with the ranch play polo with senators' kids. Their parents are ranchos.
Big deal to be an "urban sophisticate". There are zillions of phonies who can master that kind of trivial game. What, sitting pretty on a terrace on the Rive Gauche, sipping Chablis, and bullshitting about Derrida or some ersatz Frenchie philosophe? Pffui.
roT - this didn't happen late in life did it ?
tecs - all urbanites aren't posturing snobs. some even learned a thing or two.
Pepe: The kids of course had money from early on. The cultcha was bought in cash from Ivy schools. A couple of them are pretty cool, actually, but others bought into too much of it, to my taste.
Stanford and Harvard to teach poetry and write vanity-press stuff? WTF?
The worthwhile cousins are down-to-earth but can navigate upper crust crap. With normals, they say it's all bullshit, but of course they benefit. We get drunk together when we can.
As to "urbanites" not simply being posturing snobs and all that, I wonder what you mean. I hope you aren't trying to sell more Simon Schama. That isn't learning anything; it is learning to parrot someone like a poor Catechism student does.
Of course some of those rotund tuxedoes at the Met can follow an opera in German and run the brokerage firm. Got to respect those.
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