...the alcohol issue has been around since the time of the Mongols. Saruul writes up an interesting anecdote when, "in old times, Mongolians used to wrap a drunk person who is misbehaving in a wet cow skin until he sobers up." The paper continues to cite examples of punishments metered out on drunkards, including a 13th century quote from the Ikh Zasag Law of the Great Mongol Empire. "In case a person arrives drunk at a workplace, first time impose a fine of a weapon he’s carrying with himself, second time impose the fine of a horse he’s riding, third time cut off an extremity of the body. If a fourth time, expel him out of the territory."
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Exiled out of Siberia? To where?
In the 13th century, the Mongols controlled a lot more than Siberia. They were knocking on the doors of Vienna.
They were at the Baku door of Europe!
Chris, then Ghengis died, and the captains returned to the Motherland.
Tsingis' descendants were no slouches, mft, as you know better than all of us.
BTW, wiki has a rather good article on papa khan.
Actually, they returned home from Austria at the death of Ogedei Khan in 1241. Genghis died in 1227.
Chris the Pedant: you hangin' with Michael Kohn, or something? Reading up on your Roy Chapman Andrews? Studying under Morris Rossabi?
No, just preparing to move to Mongolia.
You gonna teach English?
Maybe eventually, but that's not our primary goal.
Chris,
Street metaphysics, then?
Buddhists are comparatively harmless (meaning: they don't strap explosives to themselves or their daughters and wives and make them detonate said explosives in public markets).
If you all really wanted to make a difference with that whole forgiveness thing, I'd suggest a 'stan.
Chris, where would I begin? The name "Sri Lanka" is prefaced with "Holy," a contradiction in terms if I ever heard one. Mongolian Buddhists (and I've met plenty when I was in Ulaanbataar) say that Sri Lankans who kill in the name of Buddha are corrupting the entire movement. This is similar to the way that Christians might say the Catholic Inquisitions, or the Protestant Salem Witch Trials, were also corruptions and distortions of Christianity.
Besides, this is a thread about land-locked Mongolia, and the 800+ years of boozing history.
When you say "Missionary" (in your profile), what kind of Mission are you on?
I'm actually going to be spending a couple years learning the language and the culture. Then we're going to be working alongside a church in UB, hopefully giving the leaders the training they desire as well as possibly doing some humanitarian work.
Mormon temples are springing up all over the place in UB, one just down the street from a rather renowned Mongolian wrestling arena. Christianity proper is making several in-roads (my feelings regarding all of this are rather mixed).
Great Indian and Italian and Korean restaurants are sprinkled throughout the city. There are plenty of street children, too.
It's a fascinating place, at least that's what I determined when I was there last January.
Also, be precise with what kind of "church" you're referring to. What's with all the ambiguity?
Sorry, I was not trying to be ambiguous. We will be working with Eternal Light Wesleyan Church in UB, as well as the congregations they have planted in the suburbs and a few other locations around the country.
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