freecounterpoint: Mitt bows to Lucifer Mc-Cain

Thursday, February 07, 2008

Mitt bows to Lucifer Mc-Cain

Mitt had a reality check. Huckabee has yet to come to terms. Maybe the tornados messed with his brain a bit.

6 comments:

Tecumseh said...: A response: George Romney did not have to battle the sort of open religious bigotry that erupted again and again on the internet and often even in the comments on this blog and in major publications. The leading GOP figures, including Senator McCain, have quite rightly denounced such unAmerican and repulsive expressions, but they have plagued American politics in a way that still stuns and shames its elites and its defenders here and abroad. Mitt Romney's refusal to either abandon or distance himself from his faith or to succumb to anger in response to these attacks has added to the esteem with which he is held by those who value religious freedom and hope to see its spread in the world, especially in those regions now dominated by our fanatical enemies.; 2/07/2008 4:01 PM
Mr roT said...: Oh crap about that, AI. No one was bugging him. He took Utah with 90% of the vote. When a black guy wins his co-ethnics like that it's always discounted. Why not with the Mormons? Why no talk of cult? They're treated just fine, trust me. They'v got a ton of money and they're proslytizing all oer the world.

What makes me respect Mitt is his:
"If I fight on in my campaign, all the way to the convention, I would forestall the launch of a national campaign and make it more likely that Senator Clinton or Obama would win. And in this time of war, I simply cannot let my campaign, be a part of aiding a surrender to terror," Romney told the Conservative Political Action Conference in Washington.

That's decency.; 2/07/2008 6:11 PM
Tecumseh said...: Yes, well put. But I still cannot stomach religious bigotry. And picking on mormons (and a few other religions not on the official PC list) is one of the few accepted bigotries around.; 2/07/2008 6:20 PM
Tecumseh said...: Right. Mitt=Sharia law.; 2/07/2008 7:10 PM
Mr roT said...: I think clubs can refuse whomever they want as members. Not caring much for religion, I am pleased with religions that can be considered clubs and don't resemble the mafia or a suicide cult.
I think it is just fine to hate scientology and for scientologists to refuse admission to Finns if they feel like L Ron Hubbard said so.
Likewise for whomever.

Islam militant's trying to kill us. That's why they are an enemy that must be destroyed. I know muslims that are peaceful and great. I wish them no harm whether they hate Jews or not. Let them hate so long as they do not harm.; 2/07/2008 7:21 PM
Arelcao Akleos said...: Out in the plainslands, the Mormons can be quite aggressive in their evangelizing. Not Scientology aggressive, but more than the average. I think that, perhaps, MFTs lack of patience with them comes from exhaustion with keeping their eager missionaries at bay, year after year.....Now, myself, I'm less bothered by Mormons. Maybe I just look too scummy to even be worth a talkto, or too old, but the missionaries usely passed me by with tongues silent and eyes averted.Much better than some varieties of Evangelical, for instance.
I agree with MFT that for much of its history, a relatively brief history, the COLDS was full of stuff which is cringeworthy. Yes, racism was built into the "founding creed" [working in favor of american indians and against black americans], as was an authoritarian politics and a hardcore acceptance of polygamy. That said, the Mormons are a prime example of how a religion can move successfully away from its vicious origins IF embedded within it is a mechanism for "revelation" which permits the substantial changing of the creed.
In the Mormon state's military defeat by the US government, polygamy had to be abandoned and democracy embraced. Behold, there came a "Revelation" from on high, and it was done. Although there are relatively small splinter groups [in Utah/Arizona and Canada] which still keep to polygamy, I am certain that the Elders themselves, and the overwhelming number of Mormons, now see polygamy as expressly forbidden. As for democracy, it sure seems to work much better in Salt Lake City than it does in Chicago or St. Louis or New Orleans.
Racism, which was more deeply interwoven into Smith's horrifically boring opus [sorry, The Angel Gabriel's horrifically boring message from God, lasted as integral to the church until 1978, as MFT has often reminded us. But the good point is that the leader of the church was able to have a "Revelation" which expressly countermanded the original line. And that revelation is now an integral part of Church teaching. So, again, the Mormons have shown themselves fully capable of reform, and have a structural mechanism which makes reform natural to the religion.
The racism was dropped late, very late, but it WAS dropped. And Romney is no more responsible for that original perversion than was Maurice Udall or other fine Mormon liberals.
In an age when a religion which has no inner space or means to effect change upon the original message is wrecking the world, it is--in the end-- a waste of our limited energy to gang up instead on a religion which is making every effort to reform and make a more humane perspective integral to its core tenets.
There are reasons, even very good reasons, to not be for Romney as President. But his religion, in this year 2008, I do not think is one of them.; 2/07/2008 7:43 PM