Saturday, October 17, 2009

Two bites, one cup

...of course he brings up Hitler. Just like Chomsky.
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Tecumseh said...

But you can kill 40–70 million Chinamen and that’s fine and dandy: You’ll be cited as an inspiration by the White House to an audience of high-school students. You can be anything you want to be! Look at Mao: He wanted to be a mass murderer, and he lived his dream! You can too!

Reductio ad absurdum of Pepean logic.

10/17/2009 4:42 AM
Mr roT said...

Tecs, you just don't get it. The first thing you have to teach the younguns is to feel good about themselves.

Then you can get them to channel their talents toward productive activity, like organizing slave-labor camps and death camps.

Dunn was just working on Part 1.

Relax.

10/17/2009 4:45 AM
Tecumseh said...

Matt Welch, the editor of Reason, wonders why the [1989] anniversary is going all but unobserved: Why aren’t we making more of the biggest mass liberation in history? Well, because to celebrate it would involve recognizing it as a victory over Communism.

The Fall of the Berlin Wall? A dark day in the pinko calendar. Pepe still cries in his lime-Perrier at the memory.

10/17/2009 4:47 AM
Mr roT said...

That is a bit odd, but fairly American. Some wise guy noticed that the WWII days aren't particularly celebrated and the WWII memorial just went up a few years ago.

Americans don't gloat. Problem is that if you don't gloat, you don't understand.

10/17/2009 5:00 AM
Mr roT said...

Here's Hot Air's take. Hmmm. Couldn't we do it for the Germans and still not be gloaters?

10/17/2009 5:06 AM
Tecumseh said...

This case is especially egregious, for two reasons. First, as noted above, Obama used Berlin when he needed to show that he could make America popular abroad. Second, the US played a very large role in helping to bring down that wall, and certainly made it a cause celebre for almost 40 years. Its 20th anniversary should have the American head of state to underscore our part in that history.

Day at the office.

10/17/2009 6:26 AM
Mr roT said...

Pol Pot is on our side now...

10/17/2009 8:28 AM
Mr roT said...

VDH can't take a "joke".

10/17/2009 11:33 AM
Tecumseh said...

Debating the numbers: The book opens with the sentence "Mao Tse-tung, who for decades held absolute power over the lives of one-quarter of the world's population, was responsible for well over 70 million deaths in peacetime, more than any other twentieth century leader." Chang and Halliday claim that he was willing for half of China to die to achieve military-nuclear superpowerdom. Estimates of the numbers of deaths during this period vary, though Chang and Halliday's estimate is one of the highest. Sinologist Stuart Schram, in a review of the book, noted that "the exact figure... has been estimated by well-informed writers at between 40 and 70 million".

Well, OK. Either way, this is a huge number of deaths, by any token. Only a Dunnderhead could be so blind to this historical fact.

10/17/2009 1:32 PM
Tecumseh said...

List of democides:

Germany 1933–1945 20,946,000
U.S.S.R. 1917–1987 61,911,000
China (PRC) 1949–1987 77,277,000

10/17/2009 1:38 PM
Tecumseh said...

For instance, Rummel only recently classified Mao Zedong's Great Leap Forward as democide. He believed that Mao's policies were largely responsible for the famine, but he was misled about it, and finally when he found out, he stopped it and changed his policies. Thus, according to Rummel, is not an intentional famine and thus not a democide. However, contradictory claims from Jung Chang and John Halliday's controversial Mao: the Unknown Story allege that Mao knew about the famine from the beginning but didn't care, and eventually Mao had to be stopped by a meeting of 7,000 top Communist Party members. Based on the book's claims, Rummel now views the famine as intentional and a democide.

10/17/2009 1:42 PM
Mr roT said...

That's nothing compared to Uncle Sam's victim's, Tecs.

10/17/2009 5:12 PM

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