Giuliani has received more than his share of negative publicity. So far this summer he has lost his South Carolina campaign chairman to a criminal indictment, faced questions over his relationship with the Iraq Study Group, and seen a key southern ally, Louisiana senator David Vitter, admit to hiring a prostitute. Democrats and their affiliates have attacked him for actions he took (or failed to take) before and after the 9/11 terrorist attacks. Press releases from the Democratic National Committee have criticized his "failing leadership as mayor," his "divisive leadership," his law firm's lobbying activities, and much else. And all of this is just the beginning. The attacks on Giuliani's business interests, former associates, and operatic personal life will mount as 2008 approaches.
Must be a group of fucking Saints running against him, and not voting for him, in both the GOP and DNC. Beware of anyone who proudly displays their shiny merit badges and religion on their sleeves.
Personally, I'm looking for someone who can keep a cool head in screwed up situations (if the election were today, I'd cast for Rudy). The problem with Saints (Rudy is no Saint) is that they haven't been exposed to the interesting garbage barge the majority of the world understands as life. Rudy took on the mafia as a prosecutor, kept a cool head during 9/11, had a couple marrages that went shitty, and managed to straighten up NYC quite a bit.
After all, there is a little problem with Neocons and the Mayor's adamant refusal to play Dhimmi. Even worse, Da Mayor has at least one half of the a* vote. If that ain't a warning to Versailles, then nothin' is
Rudy saw two hijacked commercial planes slam into the Trade Towers, and bring 'em down. Then he coordinated the clean-up. That was as close as any of the candidates -- DNC or GOP -- could get.
I have only one beef against Rudy -- but it's a rather big one: He chickened out of a fight against Hillary Clinton, when she ran for senator of NY State. Rudy had been planning to run for the position (which seemed like a natural thing for him to do at the time, as follow-up to being mayor of NYC), but then got cold feet when confronted with the Clinton machine. Why do you guys think he'd perform any better now, playing for bigger stakes?
Why do you guys think he'd perform any better now, playing for bigger stakes?
It's worth giving him a shot, AI. Prosecuting the mafia is far more dangerous than running against the Clinton Machine. In not running against Billary, perhaps Rudy had other issues -- personal or professional -- that weren't, and still aren't, transparent. Besides, when it comes down to it, we have to rationalize why we're going to vote for who we're going to vote for. My argument stands as is.
Might as well pick a horse. Who's yours, as of today?
If I remember correctly, Rudy was still undergoing treatment [apparently succesful] against prostate cancer when that Senate run opportunity arose. Maybe he figured first wipe the Grin off the Grim Reaper before wiping the Grim off of the Grin Reaper??
Pepe is trying to claim Da Mayor for his Planet? That's richer than Bloomberg Only for the republican nomination. If either of rudy or mitt wins it, it'll be a shoe-in for the dems. Rudy will demotivate the bible-thumpers and so will Mitt's affiliation with scientology/moonism/whatever,
...and in any case, our wondering here is just a cheap variation on a good old fashioned pissing contest. We'll have to wait and see how it all turns out. Still pretty early to tell at this point.
AA: Yes, I do remember that Rudy was trying to lick the Big C (and a nasty divorce fight) when he chickened out on the Hillary. OK, OK, maybe that's enough of an alibi? I dunno, I'm still mulling it over. MFT: I haven't picked a horse yet, still trying to figure out which one (if any!) is the strong one. But I'm listening.
Pepe, Rudy would draw plenty of non-Republican votes, too. Remember that big city he was mayor of? Yes but with the republicans so polarized to the right, my guess is he would loose more of them than he would win dems.
A pissing contest, Pepe. It's just a speculative pissing contest right now, this far out. Let's talk about this when it's about a month before elections.
I just pushed real hard and hit the wall across the room with a huge stream of piss. It scared the hell out of my coworkers at first. But they got right into the contest too.
We're chugging water and soda now in anticipation of round two.
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Giuliani has received more than his share of negative publicity. So far this summer he has lost his South Carolina campaign chairman to a criminal indictment, faced questions over his relationship with the Iraq Study Group, and seen a key southern ally, Louisiana senator David Vitter, admit to hiring a prostitute. Democrats and their affiliates have attacked him for actions he took (or failed to take) before and after the 9/11 terrorist attacks. Press releases from the Democratic National Committee have criticized his "failing leadership as mayor," his "divisive leadership," his law firm's lobbying activities, and much else. And all of this is just the beginning. The attacks on Giuliani's business interests, former associates, and operatic personal life will mount as 2008 approaches.
Must be a group of fucking Saints running against him, and not voting for him, in both the GOP and DNC. Beware of anyone who proudly displays their shiny merit badges and religion on their sleeves.
Personally, I'm looking for someone who can keep a cool head in screwed up situations (if the election were today, I'd cast for Rudy). The problem with Saints (Rudy is no Saint) is that they haven't been exposed to the interesting garbage barge the majority of the world understands as life. Rudy took on the mafia as a prosecutor, kept a cool head during 9/11, had a couple marrages that went shitty, and managed to straighten up NYC quite a bit.
I'm willing to let him have a go at the CIC helm.
Pepe is trying to claim Da Mayor for his Planet? That's richer than Bloomberg
After all, there is a little problem with Neocons and the Mayor's adamant refusal to play Dhimmi. Even worse, Da Mayor has at least one half of the a* vote. If that ain't a warning to Versailles, then nothin' is
Rudy saw two hijacked commercial planes slam into the Trade Towers, and bring 'em down. Then he coordinated the clean-up. That was as close as any of the candidates -- DNC or GOP -- could get.
I have only one beef against Rudy -- but it's a rather big one: He chickened out of a fight against Hillary Clinton, when she ran for senator of NY State. Rudy had been planning to run for the position (which seemed like a natural thing for him to do at the time, as follow-up to being mayor of NYC), but then got cold feet when confronted with the Clinton machine. Why do you guys think he'd perform any better now, playing for bigger stakes?
Why do you guys think he'd perform any better now, playing for bigger stakes?
It's worth giving him a shot, AI. Prosecuting the mafia is far more dangerous than running against the Clinton Machine. In not running against Billary, perhaps Rudy had other issues -- personal or professional -- that weren't, and still aren't, transparent. Besides, when it comes down to it, we have to rationalize why we're going to vote for who we're going to vote for. My argument stands as is.
Might as well pick a horse. Who's yours, as of today?
If I remember correctly, Rudy was still undergoing treatment [apparently succesful] against prostate cancer when that Senate run opportunity arose. Maybe he figured first wipe the Grin off the Grim Reaper before wiping the Grim off of the Grin Reaper??
Pepe is trying to claim Da Mayor for his Planet? That's richer than Bloomberg
Only for the republican nomination. If either of rudy or mitt wins it, it'll be a shoe-in for the dems.
Rudy will demotivate the bible-thumpers and so will Mitt's affiliation with scientology/moonism/whatever,
Pepe, Rudy would draw plenty of non-Republican votes, too. Remember that big city he was mayor of?
...and in any case, our wondering here is just a cheap variation on a good old fashioned pissing contest. We'll have to wait and see how it all turns out. Still pretty early to tell at this point.
AA: Yes, I do remember that Rudy was trying to lick the Big C (and a nasty divorce fight) when he chickened out on the Hillary. OK, OK, maybe that's enough of an alibi? I dunno, I'm still mulling it over. MFT: I haven't picked a horse yet, still trying to figure out which one (if any!) is the strong one. But I'm listening.
Time to suck it up, AI. Time to back Rudy (at some point you'll just have to construct an argument for one of the candidates).
Pepe, Rudy would draw plenty of non-Republican votes, too. Remember that big city he was mayor of?
Yes but with the republicans so polarized to the right, my guess is he would loose more of them than he would win dems.
A pissing contest, Pepe. It's just a speculative pissing contest right now, this far out. Let's talk about this when it's about a month before elections.
it's the weekly standard's pissing contest, mft
I just pushed real hard and hit the wall across the room with a huge stream of piss. It scared the hell out of my coworkers at first. But they got right into the contest too.
We're chugging water and soda now in anticipation of round two.
I just pushed real hard and hit the wall
check your pants, mft.
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