That’s the question: Who do you worship? Do you believe in the primacy of unrestrained federal government? Or do you worship the God of the universe, placing our trust in him?” he asked, speaking before conservatives in Dallas Thursday night
I am a firm believer in intelligent design as a matter of faith and intellect, and I believe it should be presented in schools alongside the theories of evolution. The State Board of Education has been charged with the task of adopting curriculum requirements for Texas public schools and recently adopted guidelines that call for the examination of all sides of a scientific theory, which will encourage critical thinking in our students, an essential learning skill.
In 1927, [the Colorado Supreme Court] upheld the “right of parents to have their children taught where, when, how, what and by whom they may judge best.”
Rot you know that's not true. You might not have issues with the reading of the data or its anthropological origin, but there is no question that it's there (eg from NASA). Wtf?
LOL: The scientific community has reached a strong consensus regarding the science of global climate change. The world is undoubtedly warming. This warming is largely the result of emissions of carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases from human activities including industrial processes, fossil fuel combustion, and changes in land use, such as deforestation.
Who are the "scientific community"?
Don't seem too scientific if they believe the climate models and the climate data.
In fact, they seem like morons if they do understand that Jones and Mann were out to stack journals' editorial boards.
Do you think Pepe would know who Lindzen is, or care to read what he has to say? Nah. The pinko brain does not operate that way. It's all emotion and vacuous moral superiority.
Just an observation, not a punch. Reminds me of these little dogs popular with old English ladies, who bark incessantly. Lots of noise and no content - unbearable.
Jamie Saiers is the guy I am thinking about, but the whole article, from a pinko perspective, produces a tremendous amount of smoke (and then denies there's a fire, of course).
So, it's not Fox, it's in fact about the Guardian, but what they say is damning.
Poodles: I would just like to keep you on the board here since AA, Tecs, and I are so much in agreement that we have to lie about each others' views in order to argue properly. I am very happy you're back.
If you, AA, and Tecs could keep things civil (or at least funny while vicious) it might keep things worth reading here.
Doesn't sound like Horst thinks the "science is settled," eh?
That's right. It's not ready to be discarded. The existence of god on the other hand, which your candidate seems all giddy about... well, he and his minions have had over 2000 years to make their case, and a convincing argument (I'm not even talking proof here) is still pending.
roT: It's not ready to be taught as fact in schools either.
Pepe: The existence of god on the other hand, which your candidate seems all giddy about... well, he and his minions have had over 2000 years to make their case, and a convincing argument (I'm not even talking proof here) is still pending.
roT: Make the case that it is not useful to believe things like the Bible and then we have more to discuss. The Bible is not mostly about what the world is, but what we people ought to be. In that capacity, it's pretty good, compared to the alternatives.
One could even make the case that it's more important for the masses to believe the falsehoods in the Bible than the scientific truth (AGW is not even in this canon yet) as espoused by the legitimate scientific community.
The latter gives no guidance on day-to-day life, and in fact probably gives its true believers an emptier existence than religious people's.
Why not kill the landlady with the axe, Raskolnikov?
Does an argument against making up nonsense for the purpose of serving the general good need to be made ?
It's totalitarian rhetoric, philosophically at the antipodes of where you are. I just don't think you actually believe it.
That being out of the way, I have no doubt telling your kids that santa won't come if they don't behave, will cause their behavior to improve. As an added benefit, the lil'fuckers will be all lubed up for a lifetime of astrology, feng-shui, and the upcoming sequence of ancient ayurvedic re-discoveries.
Pepe: Does an argument against making up nonsense for the purpose of serving the general good need to be made ?
Me: There's nothing to make up. We're immersed in this culture. It is work to question is too harshly, though in fact, Christians are taught to examine their doubt. The people that I know that question their assumptions least are pinkos, actually.
Who says that Marx is right? Why should the government help idiots stuck in hurricanes?...
Pepe: It's totalitarian rhetoric, philosophically at the antipodes of where you are. I just don't think you actually believe it.
Me: I don't know what totalitarian rhetoric is. There's the idea of the Noble Lie in The Republic of Plato which sounds close, but Christianity is not the government lying to anyone. Christ was not part of the Roman Senate, as you know.
Pepe: That being out of the way, I have no doubt telling your kids that santa won't come if they don't behave, will cause their behavior to improve.
Me: Money talks; bullshit walks.
Pepe: As an added benefit, the lil'fuckers will be all lubed up for a lifetime of astrology, feng-shui, and the upcoming sequence of ancient ayurvedic re-discoveries.
Me: Why stop at such obvious superstition? Add your global warmist horseshit and let's play ball for real.
If you want your kids to doubt everything and examine all ideas, then you're also at antipodes to the warmists because you're even a trained scientist!
Why should the government help idiots stuck in hurricanes?
In the general case because people pay taxes that give them the means to belong to a community instead of being millions of independent little islands passing each other in the night.
In the case of Katrina because the same government assured them that the protective walls around them were safe because it itself built them to code.
you place the anthropogenic global warmists on the same plane as the new agey types even though there is data to back one and only ganja smoke for the other ?
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Smooth the data to fit the theory. Works great!
You're being anti-science.
Perry is this guy - right ?
Yep. That's da man. Got a problem with him?
Pepe's smarter than Popper, apparently.
Who knew?
So what are you talking about him for? Do I give a shit if you guys elect DSK or Le Pen?
Nah. Elect al Zawahiri for all I give a shit. He'll be popular in the 'burbs.
That’s the question: Who do you worship? Do you believe in the primacy of unrestrained federal government? Or do you worship the God of the universe, placing our trust in him?” he asked, speaking before conservatives in Dallas Thursday night
I am a firm believer in intelligent design as a matter of faith and intellect, and I believe it should be presented in schools alongside the theories of evolution. The State Board of Education has been charged with the task of adopting curriculum requirements for Texas public schools and recently adopted guidelines that call for the examination of all sides of a scientific theory, which will encourage critical thinking in our students, an essential learning skill.
I assumed there was no way you guys had any idea who you were championing.
1) How does this compare to the global warming bullshit that your kids will no doubt be learning in school?
2) Science and government aren't the same thing:
In 1927, [the Colorado Supreme Court] upheld the “right of parents to have their children taught where, when, how, what and by whom they may judge best.”
You pay, you play. Get it now, Pepe?
We're dumber than a rock, Pepe. Just waiting for you to spread your grand wisdom in our general direction.
Good idea, Tecs.
Hey Pepe, why don't you clear up Popper's confusion for us real good, like. We's real curious.
1) How does this compare to the global warming bullshit that your kids will no doubt be learning in school?
There is some scientific evidence, that's how it compares. Duh.
By BS, do you mean there is no evidence at all for human-triggered global warming or there is plenty of evidence for ID ?
There is equal evidence for each:
0.
The evidence for human-triggered warming comes when Pepe produces hot air in our general direction.
Rot you know that's not true. You might not have issues with the reading of the data or its anthropological origin, but there is no question that it's there (eg from NASA). Wtf?
From nonpartisan pew.
I was answering your words: By BS, do you mean there is no evidence at all for human-triggered global warming or there is plenty of evidence for ID ?
"Human-triggered" I interpreted as anthropogenic.
Was I wrong?
LOL: The scientific community has reached a strong consensus regarding the science of global climate change. The world is undoubtedly warming. This warming is largely the result of emissions of carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases from human activities including industrial processes, fossil fuel combustion, and changes in land use, such as deforestation.
Who are the "scientific community"?
Don't seem too scientific if they believe the climate models and the climate data.
In fact, they seem like morons if they do understand that Jones and Mann were out to stack journals' editorial boards.
The references listed are from the DOE...
Other source is the IPCC.
What you got ?
The IPCC also went official on the news that there would be no glaciers within 35 years.
Know-nothings a lot like Perry said bullshit, and the IPCC in fact has retracted that idiotic claim.
Others remain out there and equally wrong.
Heh.
Have fun, Dr Pepe Science.
what you got ?
Where is the Scientia Pepeana label? Duhhh...
what you got ?
1) Motive
2) Understanding
3) Lindzen.
Do you think Pepe would know who Lindzen is, or care to read what he has to say? Nah. The pinko brain does not operate that way. It's all emotion and vacuous moral superiority.
Maybe if we tell him that Lindzen has some cumulus mammaries and a category 5 schlong, he'll look him up...
you're cherry picking the data (and your little poodle barking the same generalities about 'pinkos' remains as unconvincing as he is annoying).
Would you like a full run-down of how Jones and Mann tried to stack the editorial board of a journal?
Might you buy the idea that this is unethical, given that you have published papers...?
Speaking of academics, I only lately read that Obama was at U Chicago for 12 years without publishing a single article.
That's a fucking sweet deal, eh? How do you got those? Honesty?
Re poodles... Uh, throw a punch like a man, eh?
Would you like a full run-down of how Jones and Mann tried to stack the editorial board of a journal?
Sure ! (with non-Fox refs pls)
Uh, throw a punch like a man, eh?
Just an observation, not a punch. Reminds me of these little dogs popular with old English ladies, who bark incessantly. Lots of noise and no content - unbearable.
Jamie Saiers is the guy I am thinking about, but the whole article, from a pinko perspective, produces a tremendous amount of smoke (and then denies there's a fire, of course).
So, it's not Fox, it's in fact about the Guardian, but what they say is damning.
Poodles: I would just like to keep you on the board here since AA, Tecs, and I are so much in agreement that we have to lie about each others' views in order to argue properly. I am very happy you're back.
If you, AA, and Tecs could keep things civil (or at least funny while vicious) it might keep things worth reading here.
From the Spiegel article:
However, it seems all but impossible to provide conclusive proof in climate research.
Doesn't sound like Horst thinks the "science is settled," eh?
Poodle? Hah. ¿Hablas conmigo?
Podles?
no hablo contigo, pero hablo de ti.
Doesn't sound like Horst thinks the "science is settled," eh?
That's right. It's not ready to be discarded. The existence of god on the other hand, which your candidate seems all giddy about... well, he and his minions have had over 2000 years to make their case, and a convincing argument (I'm not even talking proof here) is still pending.
If you, AA, and Tecs could keep things civil
I am never one to start ad hominems but I can do my best to play any stupid game if that's the deal and until it becomes too boring.
Pepe: It's not ready to be discarded.
roT: It's not ready to be taught as fact in schools either.
Pepe: The existence of god on the other hand, which your candidate seems all giddy about... well, he and his minions have had over 2000 years to make their case, and a convincing argument (I'm not even talking proof here) is still pending.
roT: Make the case that it is not useful to believe things like the Bible and then we have more to discuss. The Bible is not mostly about what the world is, but what we people ought to be. In that capacity, it's pretty good, compared to the alternatives.
One could even make the case that it's more important for the masses to believe the falsehoods in the Bible than the scientific truth (AGW is not even in this canon yet) as espoused by the legitimate scientific community.
The latter gives no guidance on day-to-day life, and in fact probably gives its true believers an emptier existence than religious people's.
Why not kill the landlady with the axe, Raskolnikov?
roT: It's not ready to be taught as fact in schools either.
pepe: you're right, and if only you were as hung-ho about teaching creationism/ID, i'd take your line of reasoning seriously.
roT: it's more important for the masses to believe
raskol: kill the village in order to save it?
Gung-dung: I am not gung ho about intelligent design or anything else. I think that school is bullshit.
Raskolnikov and the masses' beliefs: Make an argument instead of bringing up Lt. Calley. Otherwise, it's all emotion and vacuous moral superiority.
Does an argument against making up nonsense for the purpose of serving the general good need to be made ?
It's totalitarian rhetoric, philosophically at the antipodes of where you are. I just don't think you actually believe it.
That being out of the way, I have no doubt telling your kids that santa won't come if they don't behave, will cause their behavior to improve. As an added benefit, the lil'fuckers will be all lubed up for a lifetime of astrology, feng-shui, and the upcoming sequence of ancient ayurvedic re-discoveries.
I don't mean *your* kids, obviously.
Read HuffPo, man. The world of feng-shui and all that bullshit is populated by people that do not believe in the Bible's teachings.
Chesterson said it best: "When people stop believing in God, they don't believe in nothing — they believe in anything."
Pepe: Does an argument against making up nonsense for the purpose of serving the general good need to be made ?
Me: There's nothing to make up. We're immersed in this culture. It is work to question is too harshly, though in fact, Christians are taught to examine their doubt. The people that I know that question their assumptions least are pinkos, actually.
Who says that Marx is right? Why should the government help idiots stuck in hurricanes?...
Pepe: It's totalitarian rhetoric, philosophically at the antipodes of where you are. I just don't think you actually believe it.
Me: I don't know what totalitarian rhetoric is. There's the idea of the Noble Lie in The Republic of Plato which sounds close, but Christianity is not the government lying to anyone. Christ was not part of the Roman Senate, as you know.
Pepe: That being out of the way, I have no doubt telling your kids that santa won't come if they don't behave, will cause their behavior to improve.
Me: Money talks; bullshit walks.
Pepe: As an added benefit, the lil'fuckers will be all lubed up for a lifetime of astrology, feng-shui, and the upcoming sequence of ancient ayurvedic re-discoveries.
Me: Why stop at such obvious superstition? Add your global warmist horseshit and let's play ball for real.
If you want your kids to doubt everything and examine all ideas, then you're also at antipodes to the warmists because you're even a trained scientist!
These people are not merely wrong; they're liars!
Why should the government help idiots stuck in hurricanes?
In the general case because people pay taxes that give them the means to belong to a community instead of being millions of independent little islands passing each other in the night.
In the case of Katrina because the same government assured them that the protective walls around them were safe because it itself built them to code.
you place the anthropogenic global warmists on the same plane as the new agey types even though there is data to back one and only ganja smoke for the other ?
The AGW people don't have data or this would be open and shut.
No one asks anymore if the intermediate vector bosons really exist. They do; case closed. Want to see the evidence? Fermilab and CERN have pictures.
Period.
Higgs? Who knows?
Better question: Are the IVBs helpful for anyone to know about except the guys in the business?
Should a school in the Bronx teach quantum fields or Christian ethics if they can teach only one?
As to little islands, we're all brothers in Christ, the Christian would say, and as such, we help one another through difficulties.
Even your statism is Christian.
I approve, but I think volunteers in a well-functioning society work better than fatass union shitheads that work for the government.
Hey, man, you're getting really loquacious. How come? You finally found your foil?
Pepe doesn't advocate deporting everyone he doesn't like, Tecs.
He auto-deported himself, didn't he? Having given this counterexample to your assertion, I am now entitled to a Veuve Clicquot. Yes?
no - autodeportation wasn't the result of a philosophical disagreement.
Patria ubi bene, then?
Ubi Kayla ibi patria.
with the economy dwindling, the rationale for residency in the suburban nightmare evaporated.
The economy didn't "dwindle" -- it ran into a Red brick wall, thanks to people like you. Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out.
Tecs, Pepe was a great addition to New Orleans. He made Quarter people seem so normal...
What's "quarter"? Sort of like "square" in Cambridge?
Pepe cries a river.
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