freecounterpoint: Pepe 1, Peters 0

Saturday, May 12, 2007

Pepe 1, Peters 0

13 comments:

Mr roT said...: good point. they would be unwilling to make a deal; 5/12/2007 6:36 PM
Arelcao Akleos said...: What did sarkozy have to lose? Chirac already had his "elite troops' cowering in fortified enclaves surrounded by protective rings of canucks. Pull the pikers out and send them to some UN child f---ing operation, for which their enthusiasm has already become legendary; 5/12/2007 7:07 PM
My Frontier Thesis said...: Pepe, your generalizations of the U.S. Military tend towards ascribing inaccurate insults (of rape, no less) to my family. That "notorious taste" for rape makes the Yankee soldiers (friends and family) I know puke with disgust.

Check yourself.; 5/13/2007 9:54 PM
Pepe le Pew said...: I thought the name of this game was generalization - isn't that what the statement about the UN is about?; 5/13/2007 10:10 PM
Pepe le Pew said...: In other words, don't you find it a bit disconcerting that, on this board, egregious acts committed by individual soldiers in other institutions than yours are a reflection on the prevailing values in those institutions, whereas when similar misdeeds are perpetrated by your own, it's the "just a bad apple" argument?; 5/13/2007 10:19 PM
Arelcao Akleos said...: some bad apples in the UN? We are talking about every single UN operation, particularly those involving French and Belgium troops, in Africa and Asia since Zaire in the early 90s. Your "some" is the mainstream, the Yankee "some" is a rare number indeed [again, compare the rate of such crimes among the hundreds of thousands of young men,, under the stress of constant combat, in the military, to the rate in the general population in time of peace. The general population "wins" in a heartbeat. ].
But Pepe likes his Canaille rouge et verde; 5/13/2007 10:54 PM
Pepe le Pew said...: but of course. any numbers to back this up, or is this anything more than your own unbiased judgement?; 5/14/2007 12:29 AM
Arelcao Akleos said...: just use your noodle and google UN child sex soldier blue africa , for example, although many other variants [such as putting in French, for example] will work nicely. As for the crime statistics, even Pepe can go to a .gov [or just his city hall].
Try learning something, Vichy; 5/14/2007 12:33 AM
My Frontier Thesis said...: Pepe, if you insist that your generalization is accurate, I can assure you you're wrong. U.S. Military soldiers -- my bro-in-law and friends -- are not what you say they are. If you lead yourself to think that humanity in all its beauty and misery somehow doesn't apply to the Institution of the United States Military, then we have nothing more to discuss as you're an ideologue who forces and jams the evidence. You see the world in Black and White, an absolutist antithesis of what the Humanities represents. I'm saddened by your perception, and disturbed by the lies you propagate.; 5/14/2007 12:43 AM
Pepe le Pew said...: just use your noodle and google
in other words you can't back it up?; 5/14/2007 12:57 AM
Pepe le Pew said...: mft - i don't think you read my response.; 5/14/2007 12:59 AM
My Frontier Thesis said...: Pepe, I read your response.; 5/14/2007 1:12 AM
Arelcao Akleos said...: Uh, Pepe, I can back it up with gusto. I just choose not to spend three hours providing you with pages of data which, if you but made the smallest of efforts to actually learn something, you would have known, say, back in the mid 1990s.
So, try this. Begin by looking up the murder count in Louisiana. Ain't hard, dude. Then get the 2,000 Census and estimate the number of adult males of fighting age in Lousiana. Estimate rate of murder. Add up the number of soldiers who flowed through Iraq last year. Estimate rate of murder. Compare.
For France just take one incident, let's make it the relatively benign example of the Ivory coast a few years back [leaving out the sordidness of Zaire, Rwanda, Algiers for example}. Add up the number of French soldiers sent to the CI, the number of civilians massacred, and how long the French were there, to get a rate. Compare with the US in Iraq.
That's your homework assignment for "Getting out of the Land of the Blind, 101".
Of course stewing in your versaillian ignorance is always an option; 5/14/2007 6:15 AM

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