Saturday, December 18, 2010

"The only point of learning to do this kind of thing is really as a mental exercise, as a way of showing how smart you are."

Tecs, how come you told me this crap is important?

20 comments:

Tecumseh said...

Typical problems they worked on involved calculating the area of a given field, or the width of a trench. These problems, says Jones, required the kind of math training taught to American Grade 10 students.

Sighhh... So how do you compute the length of a trench? Could it be you just walk along it, and count steps? Nahhh... You need gerbes.

"It's not like algebra, it's all written out in words and numerals but no symbols and no times signs or equals or anything like that," he said.

Where are the CDs?

Tecumseh said...

"As a teacher of mathematics, it's very interesting to see how they organized their material. There's still interesting things to learn from cutting-edge pedagogy 4,000 years ago."

AA, take note.

Mr roT said...

What did they think about sexual harassment back then?

Tecumseh said...

Measure the trench, they said.

Tecumseh said...

What do you expect from a random CNN hack?

Mr roT said...

So the Babylonians were proto-physicists and the Greeks were proto-\CDers.

Wow, that sucks for the good guys...

Tecumseh said...

So who are the good guys? Methinks, figuring out what's a definition, what's a hypothesis, what's an implication, what's a proof, etc, is more important than any kind of bs measurement. No way a pea-brained CNN hack could comprehend that.

Mr roT said...

Neither could Archimedes or Newton, the two greatest mathematicians of all time.

Arelcao Akleos said...

You're full of Rot, Herr Rott. Archimedes and Newton were full of care for hypothesis, implication, definition, proof. Which is one reason why they were so much damn better than almost all those around 'em. They also liked measurements, true enough, but they did not confuse these with proof.

Mr roT said...

Nonsense. Let's see you defend Euler like that!

Tecumseh said...

Hey -- Sir Isaac defined the derivative. And the Newton polytope. And figured out the Newton-Puiseux series. And the Newton method. And the binomial formula. And stated a bunch of Laws. Does any of this compare to the pesky measurements he made in opticks or whatever? No way, Josay.

Mr roT said...

He didn't know what a limit is, Tecs!

He's a Babylonian!

Tecumseh said...

OK, so he didn't have the precise notion of limit. Bfd. But he defined the Newton quotient. Good enough for me.

Mr roT said...

He was the greatest ever, probably. But he didn't prove shit.

Tecumseh said...

Well, he did prove Kepler's second law, didn't he?

Which proves, once more, that you owe me a pint of hoppy brew. Badly.

Mr roT said...

Who knew that planets' ornits were polygons?!

This must warm your \CD heart, Tecs! No \partial, no \lesssim....

Arelcao Akleos said...

It's true. Newton didn't prove shit. For the proof of shit we had to wait until the coming of Herr Rott.

Mr roT said...

Last time I send you preprints, scrotoid.

Arelcao Akleos said...

Spite, Herr Rott, is the mother of all proofs.

Mr roT said...

And you are the poof of all poofs!