freecounterpoint: Whispers of a Dying Freedom

Sunday, February 08, 2009

Whispers of a Dying Freedom

18 comments:

Mr roT said...: Busted link, Klink.; 2/08/2009 12:17 AM
Arelcao Akleos said...: Twice I had linked, and then it changed to this. Had gotten a new clear link, but again. Almost makes me wonder if someone is trying to block this article. I'll try and find it again and put the relevant parts into the comments section.; 2/08/2009 12:36 AM
Arelcao Akleos said...: "Foster parent struck off after Muslim girl in her care became a Christian(UK)
Daily Mail (UK) ^ | 7th February 2009 | Jonathan Petre

Posted on Saturday, February 07, 2009 7:26:08 PM by PotatoHeadMick

A foster mother has been struck off by a council after a teenage Muslim girl in her care became a Christian.

The carer, who has ten years’ experience and has looked after more than 80 children, said she was ‘devastated’ by the decision.

‘This is my life,’ she revealed. ‘It is not just a job for me. It is a vocation. I love what I do. It is also my entire income. I am a single carer, so that is all I have to live on.’The foster mother said she had recently bought a larger car and had been renting a farmhouse, with a pony in a field, so that she could provide more disadvantaged children with a new life.

‘That was always my dream and then suddenly, bang, it was gone. I am now in a one-bedroom flat,’ she added.

The girl is understood to be back with members of her family, who have not been told of her conversion. A second girl the woman was fostering has been moved to another carer."; 2/08/2009 12:44 AM
Arelcao Akleos said...: "The Children’s Minister of England reports that about three dozen muslim girls, ages 14 to 16, are missing from the schools in Bradford, and many other missing muslim female students are reported from fourteen other towns and cities. "; 2/08/2009 12:46 AM
Mr roT said...: Wow. Sick story.; 2/08/2009 1:01 AM
Tecumseh said...: This is the stage beyond basic dhimittude. That's when they become janissaries for the caliphate.; 2/08/2009 6:44 AM
Tecumseh said...: Pepe, you are truly a caricature of yourself.; 2/08/2009 10:44 AM
Arelcao Akleos said...: Uh, no, Le Pew.
First, almost all the christian kids of Morocco that ever were are either dead or have been converted to Islam or fled. So you are talking about what is dramatically close to a null set.
Second, we are talking about a choice done out of free will, and one which one is free to choose to undo if that is the wish. There is no quarrel with someone freely choosing [a peaceful variant of] Islam, as long as that person is then free to choose to leave if that is their wish. Which is an intractable problem in a creed whose founder openly said Death was the penalty for those who chose to leave, and whose sayings are taken as commanding law any believer must submit to.
A sane or adequately intelligent person would understand this. Yet there is Pepe Le Gerbil, spewing out his confusions.
By all accounts that girl wanted out of your stinking Ummah, and the caregiver is charged NOT with having encouraged that [which she didn't] but of not having gone far enough to prevent that. She was fired for allowing the girl her freedom and for not understanding that her role as dhimmi was to do her utmost that Massah stayed Massah.
Not a mistake Pepe would have made.; 2/08/2009 10:45 AM
Pepe le Pew said...: The larger point is that the "dying freedom" label is really unworthy of this uninteresting situation: some poor girl decides to switch allegiances from great pumpkin over to santa claus. Who cares ? The multiculti crowd thinks it appropriate to come to the rescue of great pumpkin worshippers everywhere by punishing the custodian ? This is just another instance of injection of PC sentiment into the cesspool of religious idiocy. The "dying freedom" superlative is incommensurate with the silliness of this whole thing.; 2/08/2009 1:12 PM
Arelcao Akleos said...: That "larger" point of yours is "larger" only in the sense that vapor is larger than liquid.
The events which tell of the attack against freedom come from small local events, spreading around the lands, as much it does from any large scale event. As any sane or adequately intelligent person would understand.
Making the duty of a caregiver to be to prevent others from having freedom to choose their beliefs, and eliminating those who do not so prevent, is to make guards out of the caregivers and prisoners out of those they were to care for. Do so throughout the realm, and it is the law of the land as much as if it had been announced with pomp and circumsntance out of the perfumed court of Versailles.
You, of course, are indifferent to others loss of freedom, as long as that moment you yet can down your choice of swill in peace. You will be hard pressed, then, to find those who are not indifferent when it is you, or those you love, who find themselves the local target.
As I said, hers was not a mistake Pepe would have made. And when Fortuna turns her attentions to Pepe, as she will, it will not be one we will make.; 2/08/2009 1:36 PM
Pepe le Pew said...: I understand the "point" your are making. I am stating that you are unable to give the appropriate weight to the event. This is not surprising: in the ideologue's mind, remote from all practical considerations, every minor detail is an instance of some great evil hiding somewhere.
Yawn.; 2/08/2009 1:46 PM
Pepe le Pew said...: the obtuseness of the black and white mind at work where nothing is too small and everything and nothing spells indiscriminately unspeakable danger, armaggedon and lawn-trampling. In its place in the mental/cultural confines of the rural landscape, though.; 2/08/2009 2:15 PM
Pepe le Pew said...: A multitude of small events have at least as much force as single ones directed grandly

AA - allow enough muslims to jay-walk and the next thing you know, Mullah Omar is taking over and has your mothers and daughters cliterictomied and in burkhas. Don't you see ? This may look insignificant but it is the first step towards anihilation of all mankind!

Pepe: uh-huh.; 2/08/2009 2:32 PM
Arelcao Akleos said...: That gibberish is the best you can muster? Ignore the point and pretend your gabbing with Madame Chauchat at Cirque du Tail?
Cut yourself one time with a razor, cut yourself a thousand times with a razor. Live the difference, gerbil.; 2/08/2009 3:16 PM
Mr roT said...: Jesus, AA. Your shaved gerbil fetish is disgusting. Could you just keep it to Arsene?; 2/08/2009 3:40 PM
Arelcao Akleos said...: You Voyeur you.; 2/08/2009 4:01 PM
Pepe le Pew said...: That gibberish is the best you can muster?

I think I've more than made the point that there is nothing to muster here. If you want to see the hand of belzebub in everything, knock yourself out. I have no objection to this new iteration of your making an ass out of yourself.; 2/08/2009 8:17 PM
Arelcao Akleos said...: Hmmmm... and now he musters a splutter. No logic, nor reason, never mind a combination of which might, with generosity, pass for an argument. Not even a pretense at answering the points. Nor any more than the faint, occasional, random spark from those two little neurons that just find the world so full of bloomin' confusions, so inevitably pewling out "2+2=5". It's beyond the gerbil, and out comes plain ol' Aristo spittle.
It's a good thing Kayla loves you to her bones, Le Pew. Otherwise even your lower "mind' would be wasted.; 2/08/2009 10:00 PM

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