This exemplifies perfectly the total fuck up that everything in this war is. If anyone on the planet deserves to be hung, it is saddam. But the repeated intervention of the iraqi executive with the judcial process has given this trial a veneer of impropriety while saddam has somewhat successfully hidden behind the argument that the massacres were part of a legitimate defense against the iranians.
The result is that rather than sending the message that a ruthless dictator is being punished, the court looked like a kangaroo court and will create a martyr. Making a martyr out of saddam! Not a small achievement.
I also like the timing of the verdict coincidentally 2 days before the gringa election. it's truly heart-warming how iraq is being encouraged to become an independent democracy: clearly it's worth every sacrifice.
I also like the timing of the verdict coincidentally 2 days before the gringa election. it's truly heart-warming how iraq is being encouraged to become an independent democracy: clearly it's worth every sacrifice.
well ok. That being said, it's always been obvious that the effort at transforming iraq in a democracy was little more than a face-saving soundbite after the wmd disaster - and what better proof of american contempt for the ideals they profess than the patent highjacking of the iraqi judicial system to benefit the republican electoral agenda?
I always suspected the support for the military on this board was hypocritical - you have made my day: is this really what you want your troops to be risking life and limb for?
I always suspected the support for the military on this board was hypocritical - you have made my day: is this really what you want your troops to be risking life and limb for?
Pepe, everyone is a hypocrite. But I suppose your visceral hatred towards anything "Republican" supplants any kind of desire to understand what it is that Classical Liberals really want for America, and the world.
Anyhow, you're passing off an assumed definition as to why I support the military. When I talk with the soldiers, they overwhelmingly agree that Saddam is a bad man. They say, "He's a bad man. He's not good." That the first decision to execute this bad man comes around the time of the elections is, in my opinion, coincidental. You were the one to politicize it.
It's always been obvious that you wish nothing but doom and destruction for America, Pepe. I get my information by chatting with soldiers, individually, as friends and family. You get yours from the automatic Michael Moore and Co. Good for you, Pepe. Good for you.
Now go ahead and interject your clever responses. We're all so excited to hear them, Pepe.
I suppose your visceral hatred towards anything "Republican" supplants any kind of desire to understand what it is that Classical Liberals really want for America, and the world.
I have no hatred for republicans and agree with them on quite a few economy-related topics.
They [soldiers] say, "He's a bad man. He's not good." I think we all agree on this.
That the first decision to execute this bad man comes around the time of the elections is, in my opinion, coincidental. You were the one to politicize it. Coincidental ? dubbyah sure didn't miss a beat to politicize it himself.
It's always been obvious that you wish nothing but doom and destruction for America, Pepe. So I state that saddam's trial was largely rigged when it need not be and you infer that I wish armaggedon on america ? Or is it that all liberals have that secret wish ?
No, Pepe, I don't do broad-stroke labeling. My assessment comes from conversing with you on this board. If you talked with someone for a couple months about, oh, let's say Subject X, and that someone had nothing positive or constructive to say about Subject X other than "Subject X is getting what it deserves!!!" then you too would believe that that person despised and wished doom for Subject X.
I have no hatred for republicans and agree with them on quite a few economy-related topics.
Yes, I've read a few studies where Marxists — even vulgar Marxism — tends to be in accord with 19th-century Republican economic thought. Stuff about individual Anglo-Americans being able to flee from the "pressures" of the city to the idyllic yeoman setting of the American West. I'm too pressed for time to delve into it any further.
Man, I'm a business owner: I'd be dead if i were a Marxist. I'm really only a rabid pinko-lefty when it comes to social issues, and only because I can't get it up when dubbyah's in my bedroom.
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This exemplifies perfectly the total fuck up that everything in this war is. If anyone on the planet deserves to be hung, it is saddam. But the repeated intervention of the iraqi executive with the judcial process has given this trial a veneer of impropriety while saddam has somewhat successfully hidden behind the argument that the massacres were part of a legitimate defense against the iranians.
The result is that rather than sending the message that a ruthless dictator is being punished, the court looked like a kangaroo court and will create a martyr. Making a martyr out of saddam! Not a small achievement.
During Nuerenberg there was a lot of nonsense from opponents saying it was justice of the victors. No one thinks that now.
So you think it was handled properly ?
properly is relative, Pepe
in conformity with broad democratic principles, then ?
Here Pepe. Someone takes your side on this board and might well outstrip your ignorance for baseball. Aluminum isn't used in the Majors of course.
It is tough for France to lose a good friend like Hussein. Pepe's pain is there for all to feel.
They got the World in return, AA.
It is tough for France to lose a good friend like Hussein. Pepe's pain is there for all to feel.
do be quiet, aa.
Someone takes your side on this board and might well outstrip your ignorance for baseball.
given dubbyah's propensity at failing at just about everything he touches, saddam no doubt would look forward to such an execution.
jj - you are loosing track of the ball. Do you think this trial conformed with a democratic judicial process ?
I also like the timing of the verdict coincidentally 2 days before the gringa election. it's truly heart-warming how iraq is being encouraged to become an independent democracy: clearly it's worth every sacrifice.
I also like the timing of the verdict coincidentally 2 days before the gringa election. it's truly heart-warming how iraq is being encouraged to become an independent democracy: clearly it's worth every sacrifice.
Yes, quite marvelous, isn't it.
The trial conformed with Justice, and that was silly. Where was Good Tejano Judge Roy Bean when you needed him?
"pepe le pew said...
AA:It is tough for France to lose a good friend like Hussein. Pepe's pain is there for all to feel.
PLP: do be quiet, aa. "
Or what, the crenolles of Versailles will send out grapeshot?
I thought Versailles was full of grenouilles.
ribbet
Yes, quite marvelous, isn't it.
well ok. That being said, it's always been obvious that the effort at transforming iraq in a democracy was little more than a face-saving soundbite after the wmd disaster - and what better proof of american contempt for the ideals they profess than the patent highjacking of the iraqi judicial system to benefit the republican electoral agenda?
I always suspected the support for the military on this board was hypocritical - you have made my day: is this really what you want your troops to be risking life and limb for?
I always suspected the support for the military on this board was hypocritical - you have made my day: is this really what you want your troops to be risking life and limb for?
Pepe, everyone is a hypocrite. But I suppose your visceral hatred towards anything "Republican" supplants any kind of desire to understand what it is that Classical Liberals really want for America, and the world.
Anyhow, you're passing off an assumed definition as to why I support the military. When I talk with the soldiers, they overwhelmingly agree that Saddam is a bad man. They say, "He's a bad man. He's not good." That the first decision to execute this bad man comes around the time of the elections is, in my opinion, coincidental. You were the one to politicize it.
It's always been obvious that you wish nothing but doom and destruction for America, Pepe. I get my information by chatting with soldiers, individually, as friends and family. You get yours from the automatic Michael Moore and Co. Good for you, Pepe. Good for you.
Now go ahead and interject your clever responses. We're all so excited to hear them, Pepe.
I suppose your visceral hatred towards anything "Republican" supplants any kind of desire to understand what it is that Classical Liberals really want for America, and the world.
I have no hatred for republicans and agree with them on quite a few economy-related topics.
They [soldiers] say, "He's a bad man. He's not good."
I think we all agree on this.
That the first decision to execute this bad man comes around the time of the elections is, in my opinion, coincidental. You were the one to politicize it.
Coincidental ? dubbyah sure didn't miss a beat to politicize it himself.
It's always been obvious that you wish nothing but doom and destruction for America, Pepe.
So I state that saddam's trial was largely rigged when it need not be and you infer that I wish armaggedon on america ? Or is it that all liberals have that secret wish ?
No, Pepe, I don't do broad-stroke labeling. My assessment comes from conversing with you on this board. If you talked with someone for a couple months about, oh, let's say Subject X, and that someone had nothing positive or constructive to say about Subject X other than "Subject X is getting what it deserves!!!" then you too would believe that that person despised and wished doom for Subject X.
I have no hatred for republicans and agree with them on quite a few economy-related topics.
Yes, I've read a few studies where Marxists — even vulgar Marxism — tends to be in accord with 19th-century Republican economic thought. Stuff about individual Anglo-Americans being able to flee from the "pressures" of the city to the idyllic yeoman setting of the American West. I'm too pressed for time to delve into it any further.
Man, I'm a business owner: I'd be dead if i were a Marxist. I'm really only a rabid pinko-lefty when it comes to social issues, and only because I can't get it up when dubbyah's in my bedroom.
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