Thursday, October 02, 2008

How the Mighty Have Fallen

No,not Palin getting Borked and Sorosed by PP's MSM.
AI getting passed on the Cojones trail by a former card carrying Socialist Minion of Planet Pepe
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Tecumseh said...

Speaking of which -- one thing that struck me (in an otherwise unremarkable debate) was how Joe Bide bragged about how he borked Robert Bork, back in the old days. If I needed a concrete reason to hold my nose and gloss over the obvious lack of qualifications of the JJ-AA dream girl (though, I must say, she was much better today than in those deer caught into the headlights moments from the Couric interviews) -- well, where was I (am I impersonating the bloviating Biden?) -- ah yes, the borking of Bork. That still sticks in my croak as the single most egregious act of perfidy in the history of the Senate as I've witnessed it. And for this putz to brag about it -- this is just too much. And not just to brag -- but you can be damn sure that he and Baracky will push the polar opposites of Bork -- a man I still regard as the best jurist of his generation, and surely the generations since. At any rate, where was I? Ah yes. I'm disgusted.

10/02/2008 11:17 PM
Arelcao Akleos said...

Yes, AI. Back in the 80s, when Bork served as the canary in the coalmine to the "New Politics" the Democrats were starting to unleash, Biden was one of the lead attack dogs. Bork is a brilliant man, and at that time was at the height of his powers, a great jurist who gave one of the best talks I ever heard in Chicago. And the only nominee to the Supremes I've ever heard of who, having been a judge, had never had a decision overturned by a higher court. This is the district incorporating DC! And to have that simpering idiot and plagiarist, Joe Biden, with his Moron in Arms, Ted Kennedy, "assure" the US public that they had decided Bork wasn't up to the right standards, was a time for chunder.
And now Moron Numero Um is Proud of it... Of course he is, just as the leaders of Planet Pepe are for all those persons they've morally assassinated since then [a bloody art form under the Clintons]. And now, to folks like Lew Pew, who have lent their name to that Planet, they understand nothing else.
Yes, I too am disgusted

10/02/2008 11:30 PM
Mr roT said...

AI seizes on the most irrelevant aspect in all this and AA follows like a cow led to slaughter. Who gives a shit about Bork now? Vae victis!
When you can quit ululating about Mitt, AI, then there can e talk about this race.

AA, you're beyond hope, just trying to get your boy in among the supremes. Alito, Scalia, and Roberts are every bit as good and didn't say 'intellectual feast" in front of a Senate that was already against him.

So fucking smart.

10/02/2008 11:56 PM
Tecumseh said...

JJ--that was relevant to me. I'm not a pundit pontificating about the vapid debate. Just mentioned what struck me. Actually, I kinda forgot Biden was one of the most rabid attack dogs in that sorry episode -- it all came back to me. And, pace JJ, the borking of Bork was a hugely important event in domestic US politics -- the reverberations of which we still feel (eg, we're stuck with Kennedy instead). And yes, Alito, Scalia, and Roberts were better politicians at their confirmation hearings -- but in big part since they learned their lesson by watching how Bork was borked.

10/03/2008 12:09 AM
Mr roT said...

Bork should've anticipated this. He is a lawyer, after all.

10/03/2008 12:27 AM
Tecumseh said...

How do you anticipate so much venom as in Ted Kennedy's speech borking Bork?

10/03/2008 12:44 AM
Mr roT said...

Assume no honesty or decency from a Massachusetts politician.

10/03/2008 1:14 AM
Mr roT said...

and then react mirthfullly.

10/03/2008 1:15 AM
Arelcao Akleos said...

Bork WAS the canary in the coal mine, JJ. No one at the time had anticipated what was to come when he was nominated. It was the start of a new way of treating "enemy" appointees by the Dem leadership, and it caught the country and Reagan flatfooted. By now we are all pretty inured to it. We expect the worst shit to flow freely from the Donkey. But it was very surprising then [after all Humphrey and Mondale were still big Dems, and they exuded a fair sense of decency], and the disgust they earned was fully earned. For Biden to now look back fondly upon it all is even more disgusting.
I did not watch the debates, JJ. So I wasn't selecting out this comment of Biden's for particular mention. I was responding to AIs raising of this issue/memory.
I had posted the "Borking" in the title before the debates because it pretty much describes what the MSM has been trying to do to Sarah Palin. It was fortuitous coincidence that JB raised the thought of it all on his own sorry self.

10/03/2008 11:37 AM
Pepe le Pew said...

what the MSM has been trying to do to Sarah Palin
You mean by asking her questions outside of her zone of comfort instead of asking her how much she loves america and whether she thinks family values are important?
You are fucking nuts. What was inappropriate in Couric's questioning (specifically) ?

10/03/2008 9:14 PM
Arelcao Akleos said...

What was inappropriate, Vichy, was not the questions asked. An interviewer has the right to ask questions, and the interview has the right to consider them appropriate or not.
What was inappropriate was the consistent heavy editing, with Gibson, Couric, et al, to make her answers as "awful sounding" as they could.
Try this one for example, just in the published transcript from yesterday's debates [never mind the interviews]
"A reader emails about another error in the transcript (CNN and NYT) of last night's debate:

From the transcript:

“And I may not answer the questions that either the moderator or you want to hear, but I'm going to talk straight to the American people and let them know my track record also.”

Real words:
"And I may not answer the questions THE WAY that either the moderator or you want to hear, but I'm..."

All the difference in the world, Pepe.

However, as you are more probably sitting back and admiring the subtlety of Pravda's censorship, it is usually, like Pravda is, obvious and crude.

The modus operandi is the same as with Bork. A blog or independent journalist [for Bork, an "anonymous source"] claims some awful thing about Sarah Palin. Then NBC, MSNBC, NYT, ABC, CNN, etc.. run with it until there no more value in milking it or its falsehood becomes to embarassing to continue. Then the next one is sprung. Peculiarly enough, all these "independent journalists" turn out to have links to the Obama campaign or national groups working for Obama.
These stories have included, in the last month, juicy stuff such as [1] Her daughter's child is really her child, and the daughter story is a cover for her having been pregnant in an affair [2] She hates Eskimos [3] She was overheard speaking favorably of slavery for Blacks [4] She ordered State troopers fired because her husband didn't like them [5] She put pressure on the Oil Industry to extract money from them for herself [6] She did not put pressure on the Oil Industry because she was in their pay [7] She censored the town library [8] She authorized discrimination against gays [9] She tried to impose Creationism on Wasilla schools [9] She was a member of a revolutionary party seeking independence for Alaska [10] She cheated to win Miss Wasilla [11] Her husband is a member of a revolutionary party seeking independence for Alaska. [12] She hates Jews [13] Her church is full of whacky people who believe that some guy who played tricks and rabble roused in the middle east some 2000 years ago was born of a Virgin and was the Son of God.

Strangely enough, on the last one seems to have any basis in reality.

10/03/2008 10:38 PM
Arelcao Akleos said...

As you probably don't remember, by the way, similar sorts of insane accusations against Bork were being rumored, and then reported on by the WP, NYT, national networks, back in the 80s. My favorite was the assertion that Bork and wifey were suspected of renting out porno movies at a local videostore. The demand was raised that Bork allow the media to get his rental records, which at first the videostore was reluctant to do. So intrepid reporters acquired the list and the horror was revealed. Bork and wife were a boring rightwing pair that enjoyed Disney comedies and a few classical movies.

Of course, the riff was "Ok, so we've made a few regrettable errors. But the essential point still stands. Bork is a DANGEROUS and SO OUT OF THE MAINSTREAM HE MUST BE STOPPED!"
I remember raising the point with those antedeluvian Pepeans, that if he was so out of the judicial mainstream then why had his many opinions in the District Court which included DC, many of which were appealed, never ever been overturned? [at that time, he was the only standing judge of which that was the case in any national district court]. For a moment the pain of Reason would trouble those minds, but just for a moment. The next day all would be forgotten, and they would be back to chanting out the danger that was Bork.

The line on Palin is exactly the same, that she is DANGEROUS blah blah blah...And today at work I managed to get one [out of many] to be troubled by the pain of Reason, but I'll bet good money that on monday he'll have forgotten all and be happily chanting...
Such is the Life of the Mind in Versailles.

10/03/2008 10:50 PM

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