Tuesday, June 19, 2012

No Shit, Sherlock

who'da thunk it?
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12 comments:

Tecumseh said...

Where is the "You don't say" label? Too many possibilities, too little space...

6/20/2012 3:21 AM
Mr roT said...

Naranhkiri Tith is a rathith.

6/20/2012 10:08 AM
Charly said...

Are your comments on this (non-) story an indication that your political opinions are independent from those of your parents ?

6/20/2012 2:03 PM
Mr roT said...

who you talking to, chuck?

6/20/2012 2:05 PM
Arelcao Akleos said...

He's talking to that little Bleu Bird of Bliss from which comes the "understanding" that political opinions are independent of all history, all evidence, and all reality...... If but so flatters the Lords of Versailles.

6/20/2012 3:32 PM
Charly said...

Make an argument that the kids of 60s hippies couldn't possibly turn out to be teabaggers, that it would be unthinkable for the kids of conservatives to be liberal.

The lords of Versailles on the other hand were aligned with your line of reasoning, being consistently royalists from father to son.

6/20/2012 5:20 PM
Arelcao Akleos said...

Uh, Charles, yes, you, Le Roi, did you even bother to study that Obamaklean One you so eagerly foisted on us back in 2008 before fleeing the fruits of your enthusiasm? Did you actually bother to look at what Obama did, and lived, and wrote, and claimed allegiance to?
Yes, his "father" was a Communist. Yes, his mother was a radical "progressive". Yes, his "mentor" was a leading member of the CPUSA. But, as you suggest, it sure is possible that the Castro father has the anti-Communist daughter. Ergo, Obamakles....
..But the trouble with your analogy is that the whole evidence of Obama's life is that he was, and is, from his enthusiasm for the Alinskyites, and they for him, to his refusal to associate with non "Progressive" folk, to his long friendship with that cool band of Bill Ayers and his Merry Weathermen, to his being marked out by the "Progressive" Faculty at Harvard Law, to Acorn, to the New Socialist Party, to his annointment by the Capo di Tutti Versaillean Capos, the fine gent George Soros, as the Leader for that so lustfully desired "fundamental transformation" one vast Planet Pepe, to his enthusiastic endorsement by the worldwide Left, and, yes, by the Communist Party, and, of course,to his appointing fulsomely, to his list of Czars once in the white house, a whole bunch of ..geee..how did they describe themselves? Ah, yes, Communists and Marxists.
But that's just what we know of his life. So it just may be, as you seem to aver, that it just seems as if he is a zealot for the marxist alternative to a Free Republic. Just seems.
It just may be, no doubt, Chucky, that if we could have access to all those swathes of his existence that his men have tried so hard to keep hidden we'd see a completely different picture of the upstanding Lad. As a real agent for a nation where one has Life, Liberty, and the right to the pursuit of Happiness......
.. That's the bet you made, right?.

6/20/2012 9:13 PM
Charly said...

He's a marxist by association then because the reality of obama as a true, practicing socialist doesn't extend beyond the AM radio and Fox's agitation machine.
Has it really been so long since you guys have been out of Europe that you can't remember what socialism actually is ? Where are the Obama nationalisations ? Where are the high taxes (that is compared to those of the rest of the developed world) ? Where is the govt takeover of the media ? Show me the goulags. What you call socialism is a timid attempt at departure from total economic darwinism. Everywhere else it is called conservatism lite.

6/21/2012 4:13 AM
Tecumseh said...

Objective reality never, ever penetrates through the pink-colored sunglasses of la Gauche bien-pensante, even if it hits it in the face. Never. It's a well-established theorem, endlessly illustrated by Charly.

6/21/2012 9:15 AM
Charly said...

An impressive counterpoint, Mr Tecs.

6/21/2012 12:53 PM
Arelcao Akleos said...

Charly, at some point you have to set aside the champagne, delay the tempations of that nude model in the darkroom, and give reality its due.

Begin with one of the first significant statements of the new Obama presidency, when he described his frustration with the American constitutional system of separation of powers [which prevented him from simply ruling by fiat]. A statement he repeated in kind a number of times during the first three years of his Presidency, this even as for the first two years he had a full Congress in his Party's line. He simply didn't have the power he wanted to dictate, and resented not having it. His first term has been a full court press on how to find means around, or through, those constitutional impediments in order to have the free hand he wants. [hence the creation of the Czar Class, the vast increase of the use of presidential directives, the hybridization of what is Government and what is political party [for example NASA is directed to enhance US "empowering" of Islam and to provide a basis for the Carbon Tax. The military is directed to enhance US "empowering" of Islam and to provide the basis for Obama's LBGT agenda. The IRS is directed to accomodate the GM and Solydnra's, while hitting hard at the Toyota's and the american Oil businesses, as the necessary engineering of a "Green" economy. The department of Education is empowered to use the Federal loan program as a means of controlling the policies of Universities. The "Stimulus" package was used enrich and to empower the various Acorn's and SEIU's that do the direct "extra official" work of the Left in this country.... these are just examples, a few of many, if but you had bothered to actually look at what your guy was all about].
His whole mission this first term has been to enhance the power of government into one that breaks the separation of powers, to provide a basis for diktat as the modus operandi of the american polity, and to break through sufficient political instruments [for example, Obamacare] which will provide the levers of reward and punishment for the movement Forward, to that "fundamental transformation" to that Change ye Hope for.
Given the explicit design of our Constitution to prevent exactly this sort of grab for power by the would be Versailleans, it is impressive how much he has been able to achieve in 3+ years.
Obama has shown clearly, through his whole adult life, what he thinks of democracy and a Free Republic, and he has shown clearly through his whole life his admiration for the tenets and folks behind The Red.
He has prepared the ground, and pushed through whatever he could on a Socialist future whithout [as he then calculated] undoing his chance for a second term. And he has said many many times that he needs that second term to finish the job he has in mind.

It's first get the Power, then ample time for crushing Kulaks and buidling the Radiant Future.

As for your "He's a marxist by association then because the reality of obama as a true, practicing socialist doesn't extend beyond the AM radio and Fox's agitation machine. ", Charly, please spare us the stupidities of agitprop. He is as much a "Marxist by association" as Gus Hall was. And he was so long long before there was a significant right wing voice on radio or FOX news even existed.
At what point did the Party line become worth more to you than respect for reality, Charly?

6/21/2012 3:08 PM
Charly said...

The nude model in the darkroom is a nice thought. If only... But c'mon - the financial link you're pointing out between the present executive and Solyndra is certainly of a less direct nature than the one you considered ludicrous between the Bushites and Halliburton. On the topic of following the line of The Party, one sees what one wishes to see.

...And remembers what one wishes to remember.
On the issue of the executive power grab, here is a list of Obama's presidential directives and of Bush's all of which are less numerous than Reagan's (scroll down for Kennedy -> Clinton).

Finally, I hear you on the issue of funding a Green economy but where is the outrage over the tax subsidies to the oil industry ?

6/23/2012 11:41 AM

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