Elias Camacho, a 31-year-old truck driver with fever, cough and body aches, was ordered out of a government ambulance Sunday because paramedics complained he might be contagious. When family members took him to a hospital in a taxi, a doctor told him he wasn't sick.
In Mexico City, Jose Isaac Cepeda said two hospitals refused to treat his fever, diarrhea and joint pains. The first turned him away because he wasn't registered in the public health system. The second didn't let him in "because they say they're too busy."
This is the system Pepe is panting to foist on us.
Tuesday, April 28, 2009
Subscribe to:
Post Comments (Atom)
Posts
12 comments:
an anecdotal story is enough for you to throw out the baby with the bath water but statistics showing 20M uninsured & scores of people facing bankruptcy to pay their medical expenses in the US don't constitute a real problem. Could you be more ideological ? I think not.
anecdotal? Accounts of cases like this are endemic in socialist health care systems, from Taiwan to Canada to Hussein's Iraq.'
Just try Canada alone, gerbil, and one disease alone, such as lung cancer. Or are systematic reports beyond your ken?
Of course they are
systemic reports of disaster is what the US system is about. or soon was about.
Oh my! If socialized medicine doesn't work in Mexico, then it can't work in Switzerland either!
Anecdotal? Hah, that's a good one. Look, mon cher PP, I've been watching and reading and thinking about this issue for decades. I've heard of literally hundreds of "anecdotes" (too long to enumerate here), and read hundreds of statistics. So, Pepe, spare me your lefty bullshit disguised as "scientific thought", willya?
I've been watching and reading and thinking about this issue for decades.
I submit you haven't: when confronted to the human and economic disaster that this system is causing in the US, your last comment was something along the lines of "problem ? what problem?" It's one thing to debate the relative merits of one system vs the other and to argue for what one finds in the US in spite of its faults, but your stance has always been that everything was great here. Not the conclusion that someone who has been " reading and thinking about this issue" would come to. unless you truly can't read or think, that is.
Le Pew. You may submit whatever you wish to submit to, but you have shown consistent and profound ignorance on just about all subjects you have brayed on at FCP. While you are busy submitting, try submitting yourself to one simple task. Actually studying in depth an issue before you spew that mixture of bile and "ironie" you offer as a substitute for argument. In particular, ask yourself why the constant flow of patients seeking the very best of medical care this Earth has to offer has been wildly disproportionately to the United States. The middle class of Mexico prefers the vagaries of our emergency units and hardpressed city hospitals to the offerings of their own system. Canadians press to Seattle or Chicago or Minnesota or New York or Massachusetts to get timely and effective medical care they have no hope for in their own nation. The medical care of Taiwan, 10 years into a Socialized program, is collapsing with large public protests at the delays and indifference of the medical corp which has killed many for purely reasons of inept bureaucracy [It was on par with that of Japan 10 years ago. Not even close now]. Try submitting to the simple realit that you can only blow shit out your ass so many times before even you can't convince yourself it ain't anything but shit.
However, as you'd probably rather die in a slow ambulance crawl through Paris than be bothered to make honest use of your mind, here's to you getting your preference.
Even Canada an the UK tell us this is bad. Why don't our leaders listen? Because they can better control us with socialism. Wake Up, Sheeple!
aa - you are amalgamating quality of medical training with that of the healthcare system. The fact that people with pre-existing medical conditions cannot get private coverage, that people have to go into bankruptcy to pay their medical bills or are unable to afford any coverage at all, is unrelated to how well trained medical professionals are, the reason why "the constant flow of patients seeking the very best of medical care this Earth has to offer has been wildly disproportionately to the United States".
Try submitting to the simple realit that you can only blow shit out your ass so many times before even you can't convince yourself it ain't anything but shit
What you call shit is anything that veers away from your little box of conservative ideological purity. How someone as erudite as you is content to dwell in the confines of the most manichean understanding of his environment is truly baffling.
You are also dishonest in your argument in that you chose to only refer to examples of socialized medicine which don't work (uk, taiwan), rather than those that do (france, scandinavia). the binary mind at work.
And here's another timely instance of how fucked up the healthcare system is here. Incidentally, the UK, as bad as it is, claims to be fully ready for this.
It would take a particular gerbil of the most Pepean kind, and one who hides in the offices of the doctors of Versailles while advocating the slaughterhouses of the "state medical systems" for the peasants, to even begin to believe the claim that the UK is "ready for this". You have been reading nothing at all on, and experiencing nothing at all on, this issue if you could fall for that one [oh, in, say, since 1980].
But you keep on advocating that "Earth is flat" line. After all, in your local neighborhood it sure does look like it.
Post a Comment