freecounterpoint: Bring back Palin and to hell with the morons

Wednesday, March 04, 2009

Bring back Palin and to hell with the morons

Steyn on a similar phenomenon among the deep thinkers of the Right.

15 comments:

Tecumseh said...: We had Pepe & his friends relentlessly equating Bush=Hitler for 8 eight years. Now we have the head of the GOP equating GOP=NSDAP? This is beyond grotesque.; 3/04/2009 5:39 AM
Tecumseh said...: So the smart guys got suckered, and the bozos were more or less on the money. Duhhh. Happens all the time in politics.; 3/04/2009 5:41 AM
Tecumseh said...: Follow-up: In two brief soundbites, Mr. Steele has managed to suggest to his own party base that he has a lazy disposition that reflexively shares the liberal biases, and to allow the wider world to portray him as a craven squish. Need I say more?; 3/04/2009 6:56 AM
My Frontier Thesis said...: Calling someone a Nazi or equating them to Hitler was, oh, passe at least by 1941 (Orwell mentioned this around that time, perhaps even before). Ascribing someone with the title of "Nazi" or "Communist" or "Capitalist Pig" gives the illusion that an argument is taking place while really just pushing the argument in a direction to avoid the original issue.

And was that reporter wearing an ascot?; 3/04/2009 10:41 AM
Pepe le Pew said...: The only thing more scary than Obama’s experiment is the thought that it might fail and the political power will swing over to a Republican Party that is currently unfit to wield it.
Got that right, dave.; 3/04/2009 11:33 AM
Tecumseh said...: The standard Lefty Pavlovian reaction: anybody who's not marching in lockstep with their Socialist ideology is, by their definition, a moron. That's the best-case scenario, i.e., when Lefties are constrained by some form of democracy. When they get past that stage, it's the salt mines, or the basement of the Lubyanka.; 3/04/2009 3:47 PM
Tecumseh said...: MFT: By-and-large what you say is true. But you tend to forget that there are real Commies out there (and quite a few Capitalist Pigs, such as Madoff, and your random Nazi, I guess, though that's almost always a nonsensical caricature nowadays, as in the oft-repeated Pepean mantra, Bush=Hitler). What I'm trying to say is, you often seem to take the position that, if there is a heated argument going on, pox on both houses, that's just noise. But that's simply wrong, oftentimes. It's the sort of attitude that many had in the US in the 1930s, that led the US to hide its gaze from the gathering storm. (Well, that, and the Great Depression...)

As someone said, back in 1964 (that was before your time): extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice; and moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.; 3/04/2009 3:58 PM
Pepe le Pew said...: anybody who's not marching in lockstep with their Socialist ideology is, by their definition, a moron

no, no. it's personal - nothing to do with ideology. Look - jj isn't... well ok bad example but I'm sure I can think of someone.; 3/04/2009 6:34 PM
Arelcao Akleos said...: Tsk tsk, Pepe is so ever thinking of himself. Even Narcissus would be embarassed.; 3/04/2009 8:06 PM
My Frontier Thesis said...: What I'm trying to say is, you often seem to take the position that, if there is a heated argument going on, pox on both houses, that's just noise. But that's simply wrong, oftentimes. It's the sort of attitude that many had in the US in the 1930s, that led the US to hide its gaze from the gathering storm. (Well, that, and the Great Depression...)

As someone said, back in 1964 (that was before your time): extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice; and moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.

Tecumseh, I'm glad you raised this point, and perhaps my comments seem to sound that way, but some take a grace under fire approach instead of the more intense kind of dialog that characterizes this board. I try not to type anything on this blog that I wouldn't say to someone directly to them, to their face, in a real-life/real-time conversation.

Some of the stuff I hear on this board would, well... For example, I recall meeting JJ, or Rot — until the name changes again — in real time and real life, and chatting with him in what I'd call a civilized way. Then he's onto this board and takes on what trendy university gender studies might call a completely different identity.

Another example: if, say, my 1st Sgt. bro-in-law flailed wildly while in the field, IEDs going off around him, bullets zipping by, he wouldn't be even 1/16th as effective as the combat leader he actually is: cool, calm, reflexive, thoughtful and decisive. I think you get the idea, Tecumseh.

It's merely a different approach, or a different delivery, and both have their strengths and weaknesses.

And I agree with you that thinkers came before my time: it keeps happening with every generation.; 3/04/2009 8:14 PM
Pepe le Pew said...: I recall meeting JJ, or Rot — until the name changes again — in real time and real life, and chatting with him in what I'd call a civilized way.

Yeah, right: you were drunk.; 3/04/2009 8:21 PM
My Frontier Thesis said...: Pepe, thanks for that.

A conservative tone seems to be a bit different (or at least have a different layer of meaning) from a conservative tone.; 3/04/2009 9:26 PM
Tecumseh said...: Is there a typo somewhere in there or do you really mean x =/= x?; 3/04/2009 10:04 PM
Mr roT said...: It's postmodern thought, Tecs. It'll go away about when the global warming thing freezes us all to death.; 3/05/2009 1:40 AM
My Frontier Thesis said...: Shteyngart is accused of writing postmodern novels, although both Shteyngart and myself wonder what the fuck "postmodern" even means anymore.

You get around to checking out any of his novels yet, Rot? Good stuff. If you haven't already I'm almost certain you'd enjoy them.; 3/05/2009 8:11 PM