Sunday, October 22, 2006

pre-election noise

just when you thought the iraq policy was an example of humility and intelligence.
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8 comments:

Mr roT said...

It's hard to believe he said that without some instructions fomr above. Still this is the State Dept, the loosest cannon outside the CIA. Maybe he's just a weirdo.
Pepe, never ascribe to malice what can be ascribed to stupidity. Look at the guy's face.

10/22/2006 1:23 PM
The Darkroom said...

you think there is no merit to the charge ?

10/22/2006 1:26 PM
Mr roT said...

Be specific. What charge? That this guy was put up to this by BushRoveCheney to make the elections work out better for the Repubs or that this guy is a heroic whistleblower trying to influence the election like the scumbags at John Hopkins saying the war has killed 6 million?

10/22/2006 1:29 PM
The Darkroom said...

two charges: stupidity and arrogance.

stupidity: us troops will be greeted with flowers, looting of iraqi archeological treasures, last throes, etc...

arrogance: shock and awe hype, cakewalk, mission accomplished, etc...

(I'll give you that there is overlap here).

10/22/2006 1:34 PM
Mr roT said...

This greeting with flowers mantra of yours is pretty damned stupid, Pepe. You're goddamned right our troops would have been greeted exactly that way if your allies in Teheran and Chappaquiddic would not have been lying in wait to snipe them to paradise at the drop of flower number one.

As to the 'charge' that this guy makes, I don't know. AA and AI are smart guys and think the US should have unloaded a lot more firearms in Iraq and they claim the thing has gotten out of control because we didn't kill enough Saddamites and Syrians and Iranians.

It makes sense, but there would be a downside to that. We would make the Iraqis into nutless wonders like the Europeans that can't handle a brushfire in Bosnia without Boutros Boutros Ghali's toilet permissions and the US military.

Wouldn't want that.

We could have left Iraq alone, but that was dangerous wmds or not. If you don't think so, why don't you ask an Iranian or a Kuwaiti or a Saudi or an Israeli. So Saddam cleaned up his wmd factories? He had plenty of conventional weapons too.

In the middle it's easy to fall to one side and I am not so sure the US has yet.

It is an election year and the left are going nuts to get whatever milage they can out of this. That's what much of this chatter is about. I thought you would be just cynical enough about politicians and bureaucrats to perhaps get a hint that this might be about politics after all, and not some 'charge'.

Do you notice that Bush has 'changed tactics' according to the BBC yesterday? Isn't there talk about negotiating with the old Baathists now where there never was before? Might this Fernandez not have been set up by Rove himself to make a little Republican 'round the corner' nonsense? Or by his frineds at Johns Hopkins to put blame on Bush and Roveand Cheney...?

I have no idea how to interpret this. I think it's stupid. That's why I didn't post it.

10/22/2006 1:52 PM
The Darkroom said...

We could have left Iraq alone, but that was dangerous wmds or not.
the charges are about how the war effort is handled, not about whether or not the war was warranted i think.

10/22/2006 3:02 PM
Mr roT said...

Answer the other part of my comment, then.

10/22/2006 11:41 PM
The Darkroom said...

You're goddamned right our troops would have been greeted exactly that way if your allies in Teheran and Chappaquiddic would not have been lying in wait to snipe them to paradise at the drop of flower number one.

Whatever do you have to support this idea?

10/24/2006 8:38 PM

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